I hope suga is willing to run this map, because I really don’t like the flow of it. I haven’t really started running it yet, but just from the few run-throughs I had, it just doesn’t agree with me.If we end up splitting the map, which I don’t think is such a bad idea thanks to the complicated flying at the end which I think we want to look good, then I’ll be willing to do my part on the second half. All the locks on the doors and the tiny, cramped hallways, doorways, and crawlspaces on the first half just don’t agree with me at all though.I also want it out of the way so I can start knocking off maps in short order. 
QUOTE (magzy @ Jan 23 2006, 09:02 PM)edit: watch this one, its faster (still way to slow though) but it gives a better idea of the optimum time for this route. I reckon i could shave another 3/4 seconds of maybe 
and yes, I do fuck up big time on the mine at the end… :(Don’t forget to speed-crawl through the vents in the beginning (Turbo+Crawl+Forward) - and when you’re speed-crawling you can’t grab things with the grav-gun (you must only shoot things with it).I think we’ll need an object to fly on the next map. These are the maps that Pincus was fast on - where is he?And as for splitting the map, yeah I suppose that would be the fastest way to do this map. Maybe right after you have gotten the block of the door? (that way we can still discuss what object is best suited for flying this map and eventually also the next map).What do you guys say?
I would say the fat piece of barrel is best for flying on this map and probably the next, although I don’t know what we have to fly past in the next.
i think we should split it then. As there was no “proper” stop point by the double doors, we could split this sometime around where you go down the alley with the 2 healthpacks just before the flying bit, then continue the next bit right too the end of the map?ps. i totally forgot bout speed crawling dale, I did it on one of the runs, then just didnt for some reason, ta.I dont like the map either Max, but I made the mistake of starting to run it, and now I cant let it beat me 
. I think a split would be best, but where? in the little corridor thingy with the 2 healthpacks?
Hmm, probably after we lift the latch with the gravgun on the doubledoors. I would say that’s a good stop point because we’re forced to be standing still there anyway (for a tiny bit, anyway), and we want to continue from a stopping point.suga had the idea to use super turbo up instead of flying on the last part, and I think this might be a good idea. We could probably use the pallet near the beginning.
I should test if turbo boost is possible in this map then. this is strange but I can do some boost in coast_05, but I’ve never be able to do in coast_07 (where loner did) :unsure:
I had a quick look and it seems there isn’t enogh space to perform turbo boost in that room in the first place, and if we could do turbo boost, carring the pallet might take more seconds than saving. so after all we use the piece of barrel, I think that’s it.if we’ll split this map I think we should set the point after this jump from the railing because it is the hardest thing in this map. dealing with it and the randomness of the barrel explosion and flying in one part is too much I think :)edit:right after you pull that jump off or this autosave should be a good point.
cool. I’d quite like to have a go at at least the first part up to that autosave point, as I’ve done it quite a bit, and have got (some) of the bits down pretty well. Are you saying that after opening the door with the metal bar, we should leave the bar, and just do the jump suga pointed out without flying? Just because I would have thought that the metal bar is a reasonably good flying object, and it means we can take off quicker when we get to the room with the walkways instead of having to shoot the barrell and find the right piece?
Heres a demo for part 1, i think its 29s as it passes the savepoint, but if its not, its barely 30s. I know I have the bar, and its possible to jump the railing gap, but the bar helps get speed down that narrow walkway, + it saves time in the next section, and you can fly really quick straight into the little corridor bit, instead of having to jump down, then jump over the barrell etc, + it also gives you the option of using that to fly, instead of having to use the barrell.If another route is decided, please give me a chance to have another go at it, as Ive spent quite a bit of time on this run, and dont want it all to go to waste. the only problem is, I probably wont be able to run until 2moro.
suga, could you practice turbo up with the pallet starting from behind the gate (outside of the entrance to the big room)? I think you can bring the pallet without losing an extra second, but I want to see if you can get it to turbo up in the space given.
What about my run though Max? Is it good enough?Could you do a turbo up with the metal bar suga? And which pallet do you mean Max, and it sounded as if you want suga to try a turbo up starting outside the room, huh? :blink:
To start the flight that leads into a turbo up, yeah. I meant the pallet that is stacked on other pallets on the other side of the first fence (below the airduct). You could also use it to fly over the long gate so you don’t have to worry about making that tough jump.As for your run, haven’t checked it out yet, because whether or not it’s ‘good enough’ to me is not just dependent on how well you did, but if that’s the route we want.
yes, that is what I was also refering to (altho I now realise it didnt sound like it) although now I have read the above I realise we need to wait until suga has researched into the super-turbo up.
sorry guys, haven’t got a chance to try it yet 
someone should work with this also, because I’m actually not an expert or something about turbo boost.btw does anyone know what settings loner used for AHK script? I think it’s important.
Maybe, but you’ve at least done the move before. I’m currently trying, but can’t get it to work at all. You have some experience so have a general idea of how to repeat it.
i guess if noone starts new topic if nobodys running anymore, were not gonna get this done by next christmas :unsure:
cant start new topic yet, as nobody has finished this run. I’ll do a part 2 soon, just using normal flying, and it might inspire some other people to start… 
Part 1, 29sPart 2, 25sTotal = 54s.Time Saved = 4sMy part 2 demo is just flying normally with the bar. As you see, alyx appears right at the end :blink: .Dont think suga can get turbo boost to work in that room.
I dont think we should just move on with a bad run. It will probably be solved this weekend anyway.
I didnt even suggest we move. Like I said above, I was just hoping this would mean more people would start running, as this has given at least 1 possible route.