I can finish the map tomorrow, cus im sick ;/
DarkEvil might have gotten. I say move on if darkevil agrees. More updates tomorrow when the Darkevil himself has spoken.
Route for 014: This is a long one.
Basically do what HL2DQ did combined with DE’s route video.
End the segment as soon as you press e to pick up the barrel when entering the goo’y part. 015 will contain a bunch of random shit.
k lets move on. We’re faster than hl2dq here anyway. Finally an easy seg!
encelect, you should try running a bit more of 013 and see if you can do faster, just incase.
What was darks time?
9,3 as seen in his demoname
Allright, 014 will be the first segment where we will use CEOOB.
Good luck everyone.
Therefore, we’re going to redo 013.
New route for 013:
Do the inex jump, then instead of ending the segment, continue onwards and do the sewerjumps a la my obsolete 014 segment attempt. Then end the segment in front of this grate, so we can do CEOOB in 014:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15635035/2012-09-17_00001.jpg
Don’t end too close, we’re gonna need some room to accelerate. Standing on the rubble seen in the bottom left of the picture should suffice (Jared?)
More updates soon.
014 is our segment now. Do the CEOOB glitch thing, save right when you get through.
Videos for reference:
Uncrouch and hope for the best
I do see what someone said in a comment, that the glitch seems like the old crouch glitch in TF2. If someone can test whether it’s similar, go for it. What you used to have to do was begin crouching, then partway through crouching jump, then you could jump a second time, and this second jump sort of ignored any clipping or brushes or anything at all above you, so you’d start to pass through it. Then to ‘cement’ yourself in the above area, you had to crouch again.
This is the link to the demo in Half Life source of it working. Since my laptops made out of wood and source recorder isn’t working at the moment would someone else mind recording it and uploading it?
This was done by having a jump spam script on and holding down ctrl for crouch whilst also using the script to spam space. This causes the problem where it will make you crouch then un-crouch a lot because it reads it as lots of ctrl+space presses.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6432493/HLS%20Demo's/going_through_ceilings.dem
I do not want to be the one holding this up, nor do i want to be the one forcing to move on too early.
There’s been a lot of debate regarding this.
Let me sum them up.
[10:41:13] .exe: Ppl [10:43:07] .exe: Its impossible to get 014 done the way we want to. C17 one too, atleast not on this version. [10:44:50] .exe: The thing is, HL2OB crouching is a lot different [10:47:00] .exe: Player uncrouches smoothly, or gets stuck in the middle of uncrouch if you spam it, while in HL2Oldsource, the player just pops into standing pos when you spam crouch. [10:52:28] .exe: So I don't think its possible to get stuck in the clipbrush and get popped to the other side.
[22:37:01] S.: ok so im gonna ask this one more time, just so we're absolutely, completely clear on this. please answer with a simple "yes" or "no" only. [22:37:12] S.: have you pulled this off in an ABH version of the game [23:53:13] Jared 'Centaur1um' O'Brien: yes
[21-10-2012 20:40:53] S.: we wasted 75 days on 003 that saved 2 seconds, i say we try at least that amount of days for something that saves 30 seconds Someone else in response to that: But for that we were certain it was possible.
Jared: It's not worth it.
[28-10-2012 19:08:48] S.: today is 28 october [28-10-2012 19:08:56] Jared 'Centaur1um' O'Brien: then give it until December [28-10-2012 19:09:01] Jared 'Centaur1um' O'Brien: Just not fucking March [28-10-2012 19:09:12] Nick (Gocnak): no that's fine [28-10-2012 19:09:15] Nick (Gocnak): christmas break [28-10-2012 19:09:18] Nick (Gocnak): people will try it [28-10-2012 19:09:22] Nick (Gocnak): we'll decide then [28-10-2012 19:09:23] S.: will they?
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I’m gonna give this november and then see again.
Objections pls. This whole situation sucks.
I dont think we should waste this much time for small 2sec shortcut…
And the whole CEOOB is big mindfuck for me.
Fix’d and noted
I was hoping you guys could do this glitch, especially at the other place where it saves 80s.
We’ve spent about four months now on HL24 segment 38 to maybe save 0.5s.
Welp, we decided on skipping that glitch (also means we aren’t doing c17_06a, unless we magically learn how to do it there).
Moving on to 015. I think this one goes til the level load, actually.
Fight your way through the barnacles, grab a box, flip it, fly to the far platform, and ABH to the level trigger.
Yep, Matmo got a 38.x on 014. Anyone think they can improve, go for it, but its solid.
Detailed description in the google doc bit.ly/hl2dwahmov
I think I got this one covered.
There was some discussion about whether or not we had enough health for the upcoming segments and I’ve gone through the maps and yes we do.
For the current segment Darkevil had less health (34) at the start of what will be 015 in his phase 1 run and only picked up 2 medkits after the barnicles, after the flying and the ABH he went down to 55HP. we won’t take any damage on the next map where we also pick up a medkit and the map after we pick up another medkit near the start so don’t keep restarting over not getting all 3 medkits.
i got 29sec time but i ended right after explosion