Argh damn, I thought since there’ll probably be no real improvement on typical’s 7:38 on citadel_00, I’d start playing around a little on citadel_01. Thought I already found a very slick way to shorten the part by a good notch until I realised that suga had taken the exact same route on his previous 2:56 for phase 1, better executed as well of course! Guess you shouldn’t underestimate someone who played such a major role in hl2dq :>
Heh, yeah. Typical has actually found a faster route than that. It’s even more difficult, but it’s faster. I’m gonna take a look at this demo in a bit, but it seems pretty fast, and I’m not running this map, so perhaps it’s time to move on?
Faster than 7:38? Neat. Hook us up then! I don’t know about the whole moving on thing though. Might be better to hear every runners voice first before we actually decide to move on. It’s fine by me to advance to citadel_01 since I’m not doing 00, either. I guess we should especially hear typical’s input on this one since he seems to be the only one at the moment who’s actively running it, hence has an idea if there’s even more room for imrovements. Just my two cents.
No, I mean a faster route for citadel_01 than what suga got. Yeah, I was only proposing that we move on. We will all have to agree before we do move on, of course.
Oh, sorry, my fault. I’m really curious to see how the imrovements on citadel_01 look then although I already have an idea what it might be.Seems like you and typical talked a little in private then or did I miss a post somewhere? I guess that’s okay since it’s handier than using the forums all the time, but it doesn’t help the rest of the team. I guess we really have to figure out all the organisational details first for this collaboration to really work out well. Unfortunately I have no idea how they managed it all for the hl2 run since I wasn’t aware of the project until I actually saw the movie.
I’m the same. I found all this a only a few weeks ago and I read through the whole forum, picking up what I could about how they worked. Yes, me and Typical have talked in private about the project, but as soon as we move onto the map, we’ll put everything we know or found out onto the thread for that topic, including demos, route plans, thoughts and ideas etc.
Wow so much responsibilty =DI think we should move on but of course wait for other runners opinions.As for any improvement on Citadel 00:You could teleport Alyx around.The bunnyhopping at the end could be a little better.I’m not going to do it though. Those improvements would only save like a second. <_<
Why do we need a different save? I like the white :(But yeah, if there’s a reason to use a different save, I’ll make one and add it to the first post, it’s just easier for now to use this one since it’s already used by everyone.Timing officially begins from when we gain control, so I don’t see the need to change the save, but if there’s a reason I’ll gladly do it.I’m going out for a few hours, so if anything happens leave me a PM or a Steam message or anything, I’ll talk as soon as I get back.
Dunno if this is what DemonStrate meant when he said he could get to the ground of the citadel, but I thought I’d still post the demo. I doubt it’ll be of any use, but it’s fun eitherway ;DOn a more serious note:QUOTE Timing officially begins from when we gain control, so I don’t see the need to change the save, but if there’s a reason I’ll gladly do it.I agree with that, but also withQUOTE You get kinda caught on the wall when you are BHing at the end. So I’d say we wait for DemonStrate to give it another shot. If he can save another couple seconds, great. If not we can proceed with typical’s save. Besides, I don’t think it really matters that most of us are currently using typical’s save. It’s not like there’ll be a huge difference in how the segment ends.Edit: After playing around a little on citadel_00 I decided to give it a shot myself aswell. Sorry if that delays it for those who wanna move on. I’ll spend the evening trying to get a decent time; if I won’t make it I’m okay with it if we move on again.
Yay more runs!As for the white I don’t see it as much of a problem since we could just edit it out or something…I can’t be asked to improve mine unless I just add a segment for the end bunnyhop. Not a bad idea as you could set yourself up better for the next jump but it’s up to you guise. Since other people seem to be running it. The skip simply pulls alyx past the gunship faster. When she starts saying: “Hmm Dog, mind moving this for me?” Hit the trigger that makes her jump down. Do it too soon and she stands still.
Yeah. If anyone is running it, at the end I think it’s preferable to end on the right hand side of the corridor. This will give more space to gain speed for the next segment, making the jump easier. Of course, it’s not necessary, but I think it’s a good idea.
Hmm… I’ve always found it easier to strafe jump straight from that corridor. It’s just that if you bunnyhop too fast then you end up facing a wall and end up doing a half assed strafe jump.
QUOTE (Inexistence @ Jun 9 2009, 09:51 PM) Yeah. If anyone is running it, at the end I think it’s preferable to end on the right hand side of the corridor. This will give more space to gain speed for the next segment, making the jump easier. Of course, it’s not necessary, but I think it’s a good idea. Just so everyone knows, its possible to BH from the start of the next segment all the way across onto the catwalk that you eventually need to walk on. You have to BH with enough speed off of the platform you start on, then land on the broken piece of the citadel that is sticking up (looks kinda like 2 dolphins leaping out of the water), and then land on the catwalk.Edit: For running this level, I got it down to 7:37. I’m gonna run it more tomorrow because I can get it lower. I’m shooting for under 7:34, which is possible. I found a few good points where I can bonk Alyx on the head with an object to get her to skip. Also, I am able to BH smoother into the corridor. I will be getting a better demo tomorrow, but I’m out of time for tonight.
Wow awesome. Can’t wait for tomorrow. =D
QUOTE (DemonStrate @ Jun 10 2009, 12:18 AM)Just so everyone knows, its possible to BH from the start of the next segment all the way across onto the catwalk that you eventually need to walk on. You have to BH with enough speed off of the platform you start on, then land on the broken piece of the citadel that is sticking up (looks kinda like 2 dolphins leaping out of the water), and then land on the catwalk.That’s what I meant when I said I thought I found a great shortcut until I realised they had already taken that route for phase 1. Guess it was pretty obvious to take that leap. I find it kind of tough to make it all the way though. I prolly need some more practice.Good to hear by the way that you’re still wanting to run citadel_00. I know I said I only needed time till today, but I really didn’t finish the segment to my satisfaction yesterday. So I’m giving it some more tries, too.Edit: See what you think of this. Since I’m not really sure where you all start your counter I just uploaded my latest run. 7m40s means right from where the save loads until the next segment loads. So I didn’t subtract anything from the demo time. I lose 5 HP at the start, but I think it’s worth it considering my route looks way cooler than typical’s 
I also manage to bump Alyx around like 3 times. Not too sure about my timing with the trigger that makes her jump down. I think the bhopping at the very end was alright.
So, I’ve been running it a bit today. I was able to cause Alyx to fall through the ground, which totally messed up the on run I was doing. If you put the bike where she has to jump off the cliff side onto the edge, she’ll fall through the ground. I have no idea if it could be used for anything in the future. I should be able to come up with a faster time. I just need a bit more time and practice.
Okay, no problem. As long as you’re still running it we’ll stay on this. We want the fastest time we can 
I finished this in 7:35 today, and that’s only cause I messed up the bhopping at the end which cost me almost 2 seconds. I didn’t manage to teleport Alyx around either. So all in all this was a potential 7:32!! Next time I did it I thought I even managed to beat that time and only finished in 7:37 WITHOUT messing up the last jumps. No idea why.
Lowest I’ve managed is a 7:36, no health lost at all. I’m sick of running this, so I’m not gonna run it anymore. That I know of, there’s Typical, Foust and DemonStrate still running it. When you guys say you’re finished and think we should move on, post here, so we officially know.