# Timing **URL:** \ **Category:** Archives\ **Created:** [February 7, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484 "2006-02-07T14:02:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/1 "2006-02-07T14:02:00Z")
so what timing method will we use? accurate one which is timed by video editor, or just add the map time one by one? if we use the map times, I think we should add extra 0.5 or 1 second to each map since there are \_2 demo. ---
**Author:** ![doxliy](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/8dc957/32.png) [@doxliy](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/doxliy)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/2 "2006-02-07T15:37:00Z")
I think you should take final time from final video beginning appearing at train and finishing at reactor explode ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/3 "2006-02-07T16:05:00Z")
Yeah, I agree with doxily. Also, if this does end up being accepted by SDA, we would also need to add the .5s for segment as per their rules. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/4 "2006-02-07T19:03:00Z")
Yeah I’m wondering if SDA accepts if we will get .5 sec for each \_2 demo. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2006, 7:39pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/5 "2006-02-07T19:39:00Z")
Hmm, we shouldn’t but it’s a possibility. The \_2.dems were just our attempt to bridge the gap and lessen the ACTUAL amount of time lost, aka, the time that the .5s rule is trying to account for. If we really wanted, we could have just left those out, made our video more “holey” and had less .5s time taken out. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/6 "2006-02-08T21:19:00Z")
Too late now 😕 We will have like 140s+ added to total time if the \_2’s count as a demo. ---
**Author:** ![DemonStrate](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/demonstrate/32/10_2.png) [@DemonStrate](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/DemonStrate)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/7 "2006-02-08T23:56:00Z")
It wouldnt make sence to count the \_2s. they are the bridge to the NEXT MAP. if we are doing the time PER MAP, then you shouldnt count the \_2s. They only will make the video and runs more fluid. I dont think it would make sence to count them. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/8 "2006-02-09T00:01:00Z")
Of course it doesn’t but the [SDA’s](http://www.speeddemosarchive.com/) rules state that for each DEMO you get .5s added to the total. Since it is technically another demo they will probably add it up. ☹ I guess it doesn’t matter, we can use our own time and somebody after the combined run will probably do a solo through the whole game and beat Marshmallows old time. ---
**Author:** ![DemonStrate](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/demonstrate/32/10_2.png) [@DemonStrate](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/DemonStrate)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/9 "2006-02-09T00:31:00Z")
Then dont submit the \_2’s… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 12:45am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/10 "2006-02-09T00:45:00Z")
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**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/11 "2006-02-09T06:28:00Z")
I dont really care about SDA validation, I think this will be a kickass run and if Radix want to time this his way, he probably will. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/12 "2006-02-09T07:57:00Z")
The \_2s are a seperate demo FILE, but they are not a seperate recorded demo as controlled by the runner.Just because it’s another file doesn’t mean it’s another record. I think the (spirit of) the rules is to add +.5 for every re-record, not for every file, however many the game decides to create for each recording.Right? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 8:08am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/13 "2006-02-09T08:08:00Z")
right!The \_2 is just a extention of the first demo. They are actually the same segment. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/14 "2006-02-09T15:55:00Z")
QUOTE They branch the demos together, some have a couple feet in movement, so it will look like we teleport or something sad.gifyeah that’s why I think we should add extra .5s. they are part of runs in fact.using the total time from the final video and including the time table in the readme is the best I think.edit:I’m saying if we use the time from the final video, we only have to add the segment penalty by SDA rule, and indeed no need to add another extras for \_2 demo because it’s automatically added to the vid.hope you understand 😕 ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2006, 6:50pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/15 "2006-02-09T18:50:00Z")
IIRC, the segment penalty applied only to Half-Life because you could save anywhere instantly, and theoretically you could make a demo of the whole game. In HL2 however since it’s forced to make a new demo for each map you sort of have to run it in level segments. For this reason (I think) no segment penalty was applied to the current SDA HL2 run. So I think what will happen is the penalty will get applied only for any extra segments, and not for \_2 demos, or even whole-map demos. ---
**Author:** ![DemonStrate](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/demonstrate/32/10_2.png) [@DemonStrate](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/DemonStrate)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2006, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/16 "2006-02-10T14:01:00Z")
Yeah, i totally agree. I dont know what SDA will think, but we all can explain it to them. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cameron\_D](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/cameron_d/32/251_2.png) [@Cameron\_D](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Cameron_D)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/timing/1484/17 "2018-05-19T04:08:26Z")
Archived on May 19, 2018, 4:08am UTC