# Red or Black

**URL:** <https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/red-or-black/2207>\
**Category:** DWaHMoV\
**Created:** [June 26, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/red-or-black/2207 "2013-06-26T22:15:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![S11](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@S11](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/S11)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 10:15pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/red-or-black/2207/1 "2013-06-26T22:15:29Z")

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As some of you may be aware, once you kill breen, you can still fall down, preventing g-man from appearing and rolling the credits.

However, you can avoid this by dieing in other manners.

This will give the credits a nice red tint (like in Mission Improbable), and also glitch out the G-Man cutscene in a minor way.

Should it be done?

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**Author:** ![execut4ble](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/execut4ble/32/14_2.png) [@execut4ble](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/execut4ble)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/red-or-black/2207/2 "2013-06-26T22:16:37Z")

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If you die while crouching, the credits will roll in black.

Also, red hurts my eyes, and we will probably have custom credits anyway.

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**Author:** ![UnrealCanine](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/u/cc9497/32.png) [@UnrealCanine](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/UnrealCanine)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/red-or-black/2207/3 "2013-06-26T22:26:54Z")

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the MI credits are hard to read

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**Author:** ![Centaurium](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/centaurium/32/206_2.png) [@Centaurium](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Centaurium)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/red-or-black/2207/4 "2013-06-26T23:30:15Z")

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No, don’t. This will cause such a controversy when the video is released. Just look at Portal Done Pro-er, and how people got their dicks in a wad because there was some writing on the portal gun. A lot of people probably won’t see this as a legitimate speed run if you end up dying at the end, (I personally don’t) so I really think this shouldn’t be done. The timer stops once the core is destroyed anyway, so it shouldn’t make a difference.

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**Author:** ![S11](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@S11](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/S11)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/red-or-black/2207/5 "2013-06-27T20:18:05Z")

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We went with black for the reasons Jared mentioned.

It’ll get shat upon.