# Power Up w/o skipping the tram or the gate **URL:** \ **Category:** λ Half-Life\ **Created:** [January 13, 2014, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285 "2014-01-13T00:47:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Freechips](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Freechips](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Freechips)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 12:47am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/1 "2014-01-13T00:47:18Z")
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLUwXMHCwTQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLUwXMHCwTQ) I’ve seen speedruns of PU without skipping the tram so I decided to do this just for fun. Please call me out on being silly/missing an obvious time saver/being bad at games. ---
**Author:** ![quadrazid](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/f6c823/32.png) [@quadrazid](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/quadrazid)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/2 "2014-01-13T01:30:12Z")
No, not bad at all. You probably haven’t seen my take on it. Very similar. > [@We've got hostiles Speedrun](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/weve-got-hostiles-speedrun/2019/44): > > Here it is: [http://youtu.be/GMXRE0Sl8tg](http://youtu.be/GMXRE0Sl8tg) > > Activating the generator and breaking the wall as objective. Something I’d Like to see is more Office Complex runs w/o door trick. Think Frizzio have done it. It’s time for a PC run. Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Arianon](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/arianon/32/30_2.png) [@Arianon](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Arianon)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/3 "2014-01-13T02:24:47Z")
Pretty neat trick at 0:51, didn’t know about it. > [@quadrazid](#): > > Something I’d Like to see is more Office Complex runs w/o door trick. Think Frizzio have done it. It’s time for a PC run. Anyone? Segmented or Single-Segment? ---
**Author:** ![Arvin](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@Arvin](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Arvin)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 7:26am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/4 "2014-01-13T07:26:46Z")
Very good 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![beegoody](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@beegoody](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/beegoody)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/5 "2014-01-13T12:55:20Z")
> [@quadrazid](#): > > Something I’d Like to see is more Office Complex runs w/o door trick. Think Frizzio have done it. It’s time for a PC run. Anyone? That dude that did the sv\_accelerate 100 speedrun in 28 minutes has one with neither the scientist door skip nor the barney skip. [![](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/2X/9/9a69fa322049ba86cfe9bc2b40775cbc6c3ebfd3.jpeg "Half-Life Office Complex Speedrun (sv\_airaccelerate 100)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfOXF5HtEgg) ---
**Author:** ![execut4ble](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/execut4ble/32/14_2.png) [@execut4ble](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/execut4ble)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/6 "2014-01-13T13:08:10Z")
Do you think it would be possible to beat Half-Life in 30 minutes w/o major skips? ---
**Author:** ![TaylorTotFTW](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@TaylorTotFTW](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/TaylorTotFTW)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/7 "2014-01-13T13:09:19Z")
Define ‘major skips’. Like, intended route? ---
**Author:** ![S11](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@S11](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/S11)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 2:18pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/8 "2014-01-13T14:18:50Z")
Define ‘intended route’ ---
**Author:** ![Freechips](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Freechips](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Freechips)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/9 "2014-01-13T16:50:02Z")
I actually thought a bit about a no major skips run, but you would have to skim through the route and arbitrarily decide what constitutes a “major skip” as mentioned above. It might end up not looking very different from the standard speedrun route apart from a few chapters, so at the moment I’d rather do individual chapter runs like this one instead. Also I actually hadn’t seen your video quad: very cool as always. ---
**Author:** ![execut4ble](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/execut4ble/32/14_2.png) [@execut4ble](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/execut4ble)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/10 "2014-01-13T16:59:15Z")
The way I see it, a majorskips-less speedrun rules would be: [ul][li]Complete all maps in the game (not sure about Lambda Core sublevels)[/li] [li]Do not use any [NPC Abuse](http://wiki.sourceruns.org/wiki/NPC_Abuse) skips[/li] [li]No button pressing through walls[/li] [li]Do not use any [Triggerdelays](http://wiki.sourceruns.org/wiki/Triggerdelay), obviously[/li] [li]Do not go Out of Bounds (water parts or places the player is not supposed to climb to). This might eliminate [Snark Climbing](http://wiki.sourceruns.org/wiki/Snark_Climbing) trick, too.[/li] [li]Complete main objectives of the map (c2a5 dam stuff for example)[/li][/ul] I think you could use Damage Boosting and Collision Boosting to skip minor parts of the level. EDIT: This topic is really interesting. I feel like planning the whole game now 😑 ---
**Author:** ![quadrazid](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/f6c823/32.png) [@quadrazid](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/quadrazid)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/11 "2014-01-13T17:13:50Z")
Yeah it is pretty problematic matter. Me and coolkid did a race once. I finished first at 01:26:58. Following those rules: [Half-Life No Major Skips/Glitches race - Pastebin.com](http://pastebin.com/sRRTCEZ1) Even with generous rules, I don’t think 30 min would possible. Seeing how SW’s run is 29:41 with plenty of “major skips”. Testchamber 40s, Office 40s, Hostiles ~2min, Lambda waterboost 1min, Xen teleporter 2min. For a more serious full game run, one would have to do what Freechip said. It would sure be an interesting speedrun. > [@Arianon](#): > > Segmented or Single-Segment? Your choice. ---
**Author:** ![Zezima242](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/b3f665/32.png) [@Zezima242](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Zezima242)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/12 "2014-03-14T21:51:59Z")
Ive seen a lot of single segmented Power Up speedrun, but not a single segmented one. So i made it by myself. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYjAEdhZ08&feature=youtu.be](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPYjAEdhZ08&feature=youtu.be) On the 10th second there is an awfull save/load sequence. P.S Jumpbug is too op ---
**Author:** ![PJC](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/a587f6/32.png) [@PJC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/PJC)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/13 "2014-03-14T22:08:05Z")
> [@Zezima242](#): > > Ive seen a lot of single segmented Power Up speedrun, but not a single segmented one. lol ---
**Author:** ![execut4ble](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/execut4ble/32/14_2.png) [@execut4ble](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/execut4ble)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/14 "2014-03-14T22:20:12Z")
lol ---
**Author:** ![quadrazid](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/f6c823/32.png) [@quadrazid](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/quadrazid)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/15 "2014-03-14T22:57:43Z")
very nice! ---
**Author:** ![OMalley](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/b5a626/32.png) [@OMalley](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/OMalley)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2014, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/16 "2014-03-14T23:57:05Z")
> [@Zezima242](#): > > Ive seen a lot of single segmented Power Up speedrun, but not a single segmented one. I had to read that three times before I understood. I feel slow.[/quote] ---
**Author:** ![YaLTeR](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/yalter/32/553_2.png) [@YaLTeR](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/YaLTeR)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/17 "2014-03-15T08:04:07Z")
> [@Zezima242](#): > > Ive seen a lot of single segmented Power Up speedrun, but not a single segmented one. That was delicate. Nice run! ---
**Author:** ![Matherunner](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/matherunner/32/215_2.png) [@Matherunner](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Matherunner)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/18 "2014-03-15T09:46:08Z")
While talking to a friend about your run he told me these. Refer to this ![](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51691758/hl/c2a1_crates_1.png) There are 2-3 pushable crates here, once you’ve broken the middle one ![](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51691758/hl/c2a1_crates_2.png) then by giving a small push (not pull) from the side you can move the two crates around. You can then bring one of the crates at ~1800 ups using optimal +use spam script. Then delay the upcoming trigger\_changelevel, finally doing a full speed boost before entering the next map. You can also bring another crate down the toxic pit ![](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51691758/hl/c2a1_crates_4.png) Then bring the crate with you at ~1800 ups, do another trigger\_changelevel delay, then final boost en route to the control room. ---
**Author:** ![quadrazid](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/f6c823/32.png) [@quadrazid](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/quadrazid)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/19 "2014-03-15T10:30:18Z")
Sounds like a TAS project, for you : \> ---
**Author:** ![YaLTeR](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/yalter/32/553_2.png) [@YaLTeR](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/YaLTeR)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2014, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285/20 "2014-03-15T10:42:57Z")
> [@quadrazid](#): > > Sounds like a TAS project, for you : \> Grunts are still not very nice with us, unfortunately. [Next page](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/power-up-w-o-skipping-the-tram-or-the-gate/2285.md?page=2)