# HL2 Old engine question

**URL:** <https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/hl2-old-engine-question/2658>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [June 26, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/hl2-old-engine-question/2658 "2015-06-26T15:40:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frosty1](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/7ea924/32.png) [@Frosty1](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Frosty1)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/hl2-old-engine-question/2658/1 "2015-06-26T15:40:31Z")

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Hello, sorry if this question has been covered, but I could not find an answer on the wiki.

I was recently watching hl2dq. this thread has nothing to do with the cheating, but with a certain gun used. If you go to 1:29:30 on the video, the runner uses an odd weapon. What is this weapon, and where in the game can I get it?

Thanks

Frosty

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**Author:** ![Jukspa](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/51bf81/32.png) [@Jukspa](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Jukspa)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/hl2-old-engine-question/2658/2 "2015-06-26T17:50:18Z")

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That’s Alyx’s automatic pistol which they pick up at 1:22:45. Alyx isn’t normally supposed to come to that map so her dying doesn’t end the game, but upon dying she drops her pistol which can be picked up. It looks a bit weird since the gun wasn’t intended to be used so it doesn’t have a proper first person model.

E: Alyx should spawn on the map if you just complete the map before fast enough. You can also kill Alyx using the gunships instead of the turret.