# Half-Life segmented in 20 minutes 41 seconds

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**Category:** λ Half-Life\
**Created:** [June 2, 2012, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077 "2012-06-02T13:40:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SpiderWaffle](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@SpiderWaffle](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/SpiderWaffle)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/221 "2013-09-14T03:09:44Z")

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That could actually save 2-3s if it weren’t for losing your weapons.

I wonder if the holes could be found. I remember Mavrick was trying to make a mod to help fight map collision inconsistency, he said it was impossible without directly hacking the engine.

I was thinking maybe if you could make a mod to change to the player collision size to 1x1x1u and allow him to move like noclip but with collision detection on, it could make it a lot easier to find them.

_EDIT_

video demonstration:

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**Author:** ![builder](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/d2c977/32.png) [@builder](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/builder)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2013, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/222 "2013-09-22T08:53:22Z")

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awesome! can’t wait for this.

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**Author:** ![ShouldBeNew](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@ShouldBeNew](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/ShouldBeNew)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2013, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/223 "2013-09-23T16:10:05Z")

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Winter is in December. Get this done fast before december please.  
Around October.

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**Author:** ![eli](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@eli](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/eli)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2013, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/224 "2013-10-06T20:18:15Z")

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> [@quadrazid](#):
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> Coolkid got a trick on Gonarch’s first map that he got some problem with. Hopefully he or someone else will find a solution for it soon. The Gonarch floor will probably be really tricky as well. But once Interloper starts, things should be pretty quick and easy.

Yah, congratulations! One of the longest passage of maps in game - 1 month on 1st Gonarch.

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**Author:** ![disengage](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/94ad74/32.png) [@disengage](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/disengage)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/225 "2013-10-13T21:48:45Z")

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Hey I’ve been following this thread for some time now, finally decided to register. I’m extremely excited for this run and was just wondering if there are any updates? Last I heard you guys were still on Gonarch’s Lair. How’s that going? And is it still looking like a winter release? (assuming of course you get the explanation video done)

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**Author:** ![ShouldBeNew](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@ShouldBeNew](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/ShouldBeNew)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/226 "2013-10-25T20:56:08Z")

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Don’t think Interloper would do any problems. It’s just a little walk and fly. But no 1HP after Nihilanth ☹ that part in Spider-Waffle’s was so badass.

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**Author:** ![execut4ble](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/execut4ble/32/14_2.png) [@execut4ble](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/execut4ble)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 9:39am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/227 "2013-10-26T09:39:45Z")

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There will be 1hp Nihilanth Battle, I’m sure of it. Careful planning makes it possible.

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**Author:** ![ShouldBeNew](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@ShouldBeNew](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/ShouldBeNew)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/228 "2013-10-26T10:14:03Z")

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> [@˙executλble](#):
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> There will be 1hp Nihilanth Battle, I’m sure of it. Careful planning makes it possible.

Aren’t they going to use the door glitch?

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**Author:** ![execut4ble](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/execut4ble/32/14_2.png) [@execut4ble](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/execut4ble)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/229 "2013-10-26T11:16:42Z")

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They already did hehe. You can give yourself the exact amount of health you’re going to need for the rest of the run, finishing it off with 1hp.

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**Author:** ![Kaito\_Kid](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/35a633/32.png) [@Kaito\_Kid](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Kaito_Kid)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/230 "2013-10-26T14:13:54Z")

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I remember quad telling me a long time ago that spending months to try to get out of the door at the right millisecond wasn’t worth the saved milliseconds, and that they would end up with extra health because of that. It was at least a year ago, maybe two, did they change their minds? if yes, how the hell did they do the thing? I mean, I don’t remember any long pause in the progress for that chapter.

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**Author:** ![S11](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@S11](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/S11)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/231 "2013-10-26T18:01:02Z")

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They spent a little longer in case of random nuke I think.

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**Author:** ![quadrazid](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/f6c823/32.png) [@quadrazid](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/quadrazid)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2013, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/232 "2013-10-27T11:56:20Z")

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Getting the right amount of health from the door would be doable. However redoing good segment because a boost took 95dmg instead of the planned 90dmg, over and over, would be a waste of time in my eyes. There is around 46 boosts post-HP door. Making all those boosts hp perfect would take a lot of extra time. Compare that to my Opposing Force run that had around 8 damage boosts in total. Or SWs run post-HP door that had 4.

I took 300hp more than planned from the door (4738 in total). Currently there is only 64hp that will be left over. So I think I’m able to take extra damage towards the end only the get the 1hp style points.  
Several boosts have changed since the visit at the door, so I’m really proud that the planning turned out to work this good.

If anyone remember me talking about fixing hp qdq-style. It will thankfully not be needed.

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**Author:** ![Kabuto](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/85e7bf/32.png) [@Kabuto](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Kabuto)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/233 "2013-11-05T20:44:15Z")

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Out of curiosity: does (or did) it happen that you rethink old segments or just play around with them and stumble upon timesavers? What do you do? Is it realistically possible to upgrade such a segment (due to all the stats involved like position, velocity, health/energy, weapons/ammo)?

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**Author:** ![quadrazid](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/f6c823/32.png) [@quadrazid](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/quadrazid)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/234 "2013-11-05T22:06:36Z")

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> [@Kabuto](#):
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> Out of curiosity: does (or did) it happen that you rethink old segments or just play around with them and stumble upon timesavers? What do you do? Is it realistically possible to upgrade such a segment (due to all the stats involved like position, velocity, health/energy, weapons/ammo)?

> [@quadrazid](#):
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> > [@CZF](#):
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> > Can’t help but fear you might find timesavers for already finished segments at some point and start redoing segments 😛 Anyway, I was wondering if you and/or possibly the other folks involved with this run could stream some of your attempts on the sourceruns stream. I’d sure tune in for that. Either way, can’t wait to see this thing!
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> It happened. coolkid found a early really neat trick in the room with three scientists and a window into testchamber. So we redid segment 8 and did an extra segment between 8 and 9. I could merge it together with the old segments really good with the position and viewangle features.  
> Saving: 2.88s over our old style. and 3.49s over spider-waffles old run.  
> [http://goo.gl/6nexm](http://goo.gl/6nexm)

That one was pretty easy since we had no weapons at that point, and also were standing still at the segment swap. I also redid the first Interloper map in order to fix a satchel and reload shotgun. Most xen maps are easy to redo since they mostly start and end with teleports.

There is a thing way back at On A Rail that could’ve been done about 2s faster with better health planning. An extra damage boost with grenade to replace tripmine climbing. And less damage on already existing damage boost. But said extra grenade boost would be incredibly hard without armor (would need 30ap+, would take 3s+ to recharge, no suitable batteries) since it would have to be placed on the ground on good spot while doing an extremely hard bhop in the electric water. This is a project for future TASes.

Here’s a bonus save at Lambda Core to play around with [https://www.dropbox.com/s/6n78kqsis5pzynj/217.sav](https://www.dropbox.com/s/6n78kqsis5pzynj/217.sav)

More to come.

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**Author:** ![SuperFrizzio](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@SuperFrizzio](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/SuperFrizzio)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/235 "2013-11-06T17:02:35Z")

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c4a1d in 3.60 seconds?  
What the hell… did you guys skipped the entire level by doing a trigger change-level delay?

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**Author:** ![igge](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/3d9bf3/32.png) [@igge](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/igge)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/236 "2013-11-08T10:00:41Z")

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ETA?

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**Author:** ![TaylorTotFTW](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@TaylorTotFTW](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/TaylorTotFTW)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/237 "2013-11-08T13:07:56Z")

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coolkid said it was done yesterday, but I’m pretty sure he was joking (CrashFort was like “I don’t see any new demos?”, as if unaware of the ruse).

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**Author:** ![ShouldBeNew](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@ShouldBeNew](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/ShouldBeNew)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 7:37am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/238 "2013-11-09T07:37:25Z")

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Seriously? Oh man i hope he’s not joking. I’m so excited and coolkid is almost lying to us ☹

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**Author:** ![quadrazid](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/q/f6c823/32.png) [@quadrazid](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/quadrazid)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2013, 11:51pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/239 "2013-11-09T23:51:47Z")

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_ **“You are man… he is not man… for you he waits… for you…”** _  
11 damage boosts and 5 gauss boosts later, Interloper is finished. Nearly cut in half, 42.7% faster to be exact.  
Now there is ~50 segments left of Nihilanth slaughtering…

> [@quadrazid](#):
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> Let’s guess Interloper : \>
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> think-circle 2:41  
> dopefish 2:13  
> RandomEngy 2:10  
> Spider-Waffle 1:05.47  
> New ?:??.??

> [@SuperFrizzio](#):
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> 37 seconds?

Congratulations Fabrizio! Final time 37.49

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**Author:** ![OMalley](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/b5a626/32.png) [@OMalley](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/OMalley)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/half-life-segmented-in-20-minutes-41-seconds/2077/240 "2013-11-10T00:49:04Z")

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I’m incredibly curious as to how you’re going to speed up killing the Nihilanth.

How many segments did SpiderWaffle have in the final level?

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