# d3\_c17\_04 **URL:** \ **Category:** Archives\ **Created:** [January 13, 2006, 11:42am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459 "2006-01-13T11:42:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 7:07pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/21 "2006-01-14T19:07:00Z")
but do we?? :huh: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2006, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/22 "2006-01-14T19:12:00Z")
its a tradeoff, can a mortar + armor save the 3 seconds the barrel part saves? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/23 "2006-01-15T01:00:00Z")
Got 15s, gonna try for 14. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 1:28am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/24 "2006-01-15T01:28:00Z")
Done 🙂[http://www.hl2dq.net/uploads/1770016582/p2…aximusx\_14s.rar](http://www.hl2dq.net/uploads/1770016582/p2_d3_c17_04_maximusx_14s.rar) ---
**Author:** ![DaleLewill](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/bc79bd/32.png) [@DaleLewill](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/DaleLewill)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 4:51am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/25 "2006-01-15T04:51:00Z")
I’ve seen your demo MaximusX, pretty nice! 😉 What’s your oppinion on what to do with the barrel? To you think we should fly with the barrel itself or explode it?I think flying backwards with it will be the fastest method…But people should still try to improve the time, but this is a good run. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 5:13am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/26 "2006-01-15T05:13:00Z")
What exactly were you looking to improve? I think with this route we could possibly shave a second more off, and two is pushing it. Neither of those is something I would care to do though, as they would require a high level of perfection to pull off and I’m not sure I could improve even one second without wasting way too much time for such a small map.The final doorway looks slow, but really when you’re carrying something you can’t sprint, and jumping excessively in that cramped environment will only slow you down. I jumped twice when there was space and I don’t think you can get much more speed out of the tiny hallway while carrying an object. Note that even if I stopped to grab a piece of metal like suga did, I would still be carrying an object. This is why his doorway also looked slow, because, well, it has to be. :)As for the barrel, I don’t know, but we could do anything I suppose. Blowing it up and grabbing the long piece as we move will give us the ability to climb through the air fast, so maybe that’s the best option. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 10:56am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/27 "2006-01-15T10:56:00Z")
Are we ready to move on? I havnt seen the demo, but 14s seems a decent enough time to me. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/28 "2006-01-15T11:32:00Z")
The run looks pretty smooth. There is room for another second to shave but Im satisfied with this. Anyway, you have to consider that exploding the barrel and picking the right part up in the next map takes about one second or so. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/29 "2006-01-15T13:37:00Z")
I think we should use suga’s demo, as blowing the barrell and picking up the right piece will be v random and annoying, and it will probably take more than 1s.edit: oh its 2s faster. hm, well, im 50/50 on this one, what do you guys think?edit:edit (!) sugas run didnt have savegames with it, so unless he has em saved somewhere else, looks like we’re using Max’sedit:edit:edit: does it always double save at that point in the game, or did u cheat Max and save b4 u reached the checkpoint ? :Pedit:edit:edit:edit: where does the next section end? the autosave as you go down the stairs? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/30 "2006-01-15T14:02:00Z")
k. after playing with it a bit, i wud 10x rather use a 16s demo already with the piece of metal. if you have the savegames for the game, could you upload suga? If not, could you do it again? :lol: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/31 "2006-01-15T16:27:00Z")
Grabbing the piece of metal is not very random if you blow it up in the building, and should be faster than with a piece of metal because you can throw, then sprintjump to the piece, whereas with one from the beginning you would have to slow bhop to the doorway.If you guys don’t think you will be able to do it, I assure you that I will do the map then. 2s faster is a very good improvement for a tiny map like c17\_04.As for the save point, it will be a little off, as during the blackscreen I accidentally turned my mouse too much and ended up running back through the savepoint to the other level, then immediately turning around and going back through. Since each level transition will be noticable and a little off also, it shouldn’t be a problem. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/32 "2006-01-15T16:56:00Z")
suga pointed out to me that for some reason in my save I’m carrying the barrel instead of holding it with the gravgun. I told you how I came to the savegame I got, so I still don’t know how that was possible, but in either case, I made a new one. I just took my old savegame, put down the barrel, and picked it up with the gravgun. Nothing crazy.[http://www.hl2dq.net/uploads/413790265/p2\_…aximusx\_14s.rar](http://www.hl2dq.net/uploads/413790265/p2_d3_c17_04_maximusx_14s.rar) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/33 "2006-01-15T19:41:00Z")
thats fine. what I meant by takinga long time was i had to drop the barrell, then pick it up with the gravgun and throw it. that would have taken a long time, if its in the gravgun, it dont matter. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/34 "2006-01-15T20:04:00Z")
I realize that, which is why I took the time to make a new one :PThanks for pointing it out though, I still don’t know how that happened. :unsure: ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/35 "2006-01-15T20:21:00Z")
B) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://forum-content.sourceruns.org/original/1X/fba7d899f85b067a16647b39a5fa8913d95f2b05.png) [@system](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/36 "2006-01-15T22:08:00Z")
Since the new saves overwrote the old demos and old save (same filename), I overwrote THAT file with a new one that has both the correct demos and the correct save.[http://www.hl2dq.net/uploads/560947403/p2\_…aximusx\_14s.rar](http://www.hl2dq.net/uploads/560947403/p2_d3_c17_04_maximusx_14s.rar) ---
**Author:** ![Cameron\_D](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/cameron_d/32/251_2.png) [@Cameron\_D](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Cameron_D)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2018, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/d3-c17-04/1459/37 "2018-05-19T04:08:26Z")
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