# A few useless glitches with prop collision **URL:** \ **Category:** Portal\ **Created:** [January 9, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803 "2016-01-09T21:12:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SuperPcow](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@SuperPcow](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/SuperPcow)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/1 "2016-01-09T21:12:39Z")
From what I can tell, there are two types of prop\_physics in Portal. The first ones are the normal ones we all know: Cubes, Radios etc. The other ones are mice, cup shards, keyboards, and bean cans. They often come from a normal prop breaking; they are often wooden debris from a broken box. The best way to identify these types of props are from their collision properties. **These objects do not collide with players.** To avoid confusion, I’ll call them “Debris” (It’s hard to tell which category to place cameras into so I won’t.) These different types of props have different types of collision properties. Debris don’t collide with other Debris or the player. Debris do collide with normal props and walls. Normal Props collide with everything. Cameras, however, are just weird. As we all know, cameras collide with players in a weird way known as [Camera Bug](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eriE0HL51Y) and [Camera Fly](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s_p2hAyoLM). Cameras collide with normal props in a normal way. But the collision between cameras and Debris are hard to describe but I’ll do my best. Cameras cannot push Debris. Debris can push cameras. Cameras cannot be stacked on top of an Debris. An Debris can be stacked on top of a camera. When save-loading while an Debris is on top of a camera, the Debris loses all collision with everything until interupted by a player or portal. Video: [https://youtu.be/zkG5W1LNJ50](https://youtu.be/zkG5W1LNJ50) Now for something a little more useful, but still not useful. **Debris are able to survive a fizzler.** To do this, you must make sure that the last thing the Debris touched BEFORE going through a fizzler is a normal prop. The only use I have found for this glitch is preserving the coffee mug through the entire game. We call it Cup%. There is a speedrun of this by [Kojlax](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOOm0v-Jgxs) if you’d like to check it out. Cup% is the only use I have found for this so far. I was hoping for something more useful, but players cannot collide with Debris which means no wallclimbing or object boosting with these. Video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSz1CKtX4bg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSz1CKtX4bg) The last glitch I noticed has no use so far, but is the coolest one so far. **It allows for any object to be clipped through a wall at ease.** You simply place a normal prop on top of a Debris and push it downwards and towards a wall. It will take a while, but you will find the prop to be pushed through the wall. I don’t see any use for this in Portal because the Portal Gun exists, but it could be something fun to do in Half-Life 2 while stuck in those boring cutscenes. Video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBlrgBnetWo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBlrgBnetWo) tl;dr: Debris have weird collision properties. You can get them to survive a fizzler and force normal props through walls easily. The closest thing to a “good use” for these glitches is Cup%. If you find any good uses for these glitches please let me know what you’ve found. These types of props have always been weird to me and they just keep getting weirder. ---
**Author:** ![mike](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/58f4c7/32.png) [@mike](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/mike)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/2 "2016-01-09T22:00:17Z")
> [@SuperPcow](#): > > **It allows for any object to be clipped through a wall at ease.** Oh my GOD! This is probably usable in Rexaura, at least theoretically. As for everything else, you’ve found some really weird stuff; good job. ---
**Author:** ![Jukspa](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/51bf81/32.png) [@Jukspa](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Jukspa)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/3 "2016-01-10T07:39:03Z")
The last one looks pretty sick, very cool stuff overall. ---
**Author:** ![YaLTeR](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/yalter/32/553_2.png) [@YaLTeR](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/YaLTeR)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 7:40am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/4 "2016-01-10T07:40:31Z")
Pretty sure those NCP Props are called “debris” or something. ---
**Author:** ![traderain](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/traderain/32/118_2.png) [@traderain](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/traderain)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/5 "2016-01-10T09:04:03Z")
The third one seems pretty epic. I will try to find a way to use it in hl2. ---
**Author:** ![SuperPcow](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@SuperPcow](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/SuperPcow)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2016, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/6 "2016-01-10T10:58:46Z")
> [@YaLTeR](#): > > Pretty sure those NCP Props are called “debris” or something. Could be true, but they also consist of keyboards, bean cans, and some clipboards. They aren’t always actually debris from a larger prop. ---
**Author:** ![INFERNOUX](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/infernoux/32/123_2.png) [@INFERNOUX](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/INFERNOUX)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/7 "2016-01-25T05:49:21Z")
Could you (in theory) use that to clip the cube onto the button in 01 before the portal gets there? I mean it’s useless but could you? ---
**Author:** ![SuperPcow](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@SuperPcow](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/SuperPcow)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2016, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/8 "2016-01-25T07:32:56Z")
It’s pointless, but if your lucky enough, the cube will clip fast enough. ---
**Author:** ![Margen67](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/user_avatar/forums.sourceruns.org/margen67/32/33_2.png) [@Margen67](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Margen67)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2016, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/9 "2016-02-16T15:38:53Z")
> [@SuperPcow](#): > > > [@YaLTeR](#): > > > > Pretty sure those NCP Props are called “debris” or something. > > Could be true, but they also consist of keyboards, bean cans, and some clipboards. They aren’t always actually debris from a larger prop. In that case it’s a prop\_physics with the “Debris” flag checked. ---
**Author:** ![SuperPcow](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@SuperPcow](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/SuperPcow)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 5:09am UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/10 "2016-02-17T05:09:53Z")
Updated. It was a pretty stupid name to call it anyways. We’ll just refer to them as debris ---
**Author:** ![Ryzen](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/858c86/32.png) [@Ryzen](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/Ryzen)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/11 "2016-02-17T17:26:31Z")
**It allows for any object to be clipped through a wall at ease.** Is there a possible use for this to try and clip yourself through an object or wall in Half Life 2? If you could, that could skip save-loading in the physics puzzle in the end of boatless part 1. ---
**Author:** ![SuperPcow](https://b-cdn.sourceruns.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/51bf81/32.png) [@SuperPcow](https://forums.sourceruns.org/u/SuperPcow)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.sourceruns.org/t/a-few-useless-glitches-with-prop-collision/2803/12 "2016-02-17T23:35:00Z")
The object looses collision with the wall. Just because a player is inside the object doesn’t mean the player loses collision with the wall.